Vladimir Pozner: “I adhere to the principle of not belonging to either one or the other.” Posner told how the interview with Assange took place. The purpose of observing the masses is to understand what an entire people is up to
RIGA, October 31 - RIA Novosti. Russian television journalist Vladimir Pozner managed to arrange an interview with Australian Internet journalist, founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, thanks to a happy coincidence.
"It was difficult. Although it would be fairer to say both yes and no. I tried repeatedly to arrange this interview, but I was unable to. In this case, I was very lucky - when I was in Stockholm, on the set of a film about Scandinavia, which I worked on I’m working now, I accidentally ran into a person who is closely acquainted with Assange. And I asked him if he could help me get through to Assange. He said that he could call me later and tell me about the result. Literally in two days he called back. gave the phone number to Assange’s closest assistant. So I got the go-ahead to do this interview. So you can say that it was easy, but I was just lucky,” Posner said in an interview with the Latvian radio station Baltkom.
According to him, in order to meet with Assange, he had to fulfill a number of conditions.
“I rang the doorbell of the embassy, a security guard opened the door for me and checks who you are and what you are. Then, when you enter, he takes you to this waiting room and asks if you have a phone. I had two of them, he said, please , give them to me. He also asked if I had a passport and said that he would give everything back when I completed my work. Then we went to the room where the interview itself would take place. It is located on the first floor, the windows are tightly closed. hung with curtains so that no one could not only look inside, but also hear anything,” Posner said.
According to him, Assange did not seem depressed because he could not leave the walls of the Ecuadorian embassy.
"He is, of course, not a prisoner, since the Ecuadorian embassy does not force him to stay there. He is a refugee, and this is where he is hiding from his pursuers. Near the embassy, I noticed some interesting details. He made an appointment for me at 7.30 in the evening, when I approached, it was already completely dark. At the embassy building, I noticed that several cars with tinted windows were parked nearby, and there was no one in the front seats, but the engines were running. Also, when I entered, several people in civilian clothes were walking near the building. , and when I came out, they were still walking. It’s clear that this is surveillance, and he can’t go out - he’ll be caught right away,” Posner noted.
According to him, Assange is in a normal mental state.
“I talked with him for only an hour and a half, we wrote the interview live, that is, nothing was cut out, there was no editing... Yes, we talked a little before and after the interview, but I can’t draw any global conclusions on this basis I can’t. It seemed to me that he was in a normal state. Of course, he is tense, but he does not give the impression of a depressed person, not at all aware of the gravity of his situation, he can joke about this topic, in my opinion. , he is absolutely adequate,” Posner said.
Posner also admitted that he positively evaluates the work of Assange and his organization WikiLeaks.
“The creator of WikiLeaks receives information from various sources, from closed people, anonymous people who have access to secret information. At the same time, this information directly affects the lives of ordinary people. WikiLeaks receives this information, and then an extremely qualified check is carried out to determine how this data corresponds to reality. And here it must be emphasized that so far not a single person has said that this information is false. In fact, WikiLeaks allows us to be aware of what the authorities are hiding from us,” Posner said.
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Arrangement:
(1) Americans still need to maintain a nominal amount of democracy in front of their society and in front of world society. They have not yet decided to directly and publicly renounce the theatrical role of the most advanced democracy.
(2) And citizen Assange has wisely worked to make himself a fairly visible figure throughout the world. The figure is the ultimate fighter for truth, for the availability of information and for human freedom. If they kidnap or kill, not only will it not go unnoticed, but it will also produce a fairly powerful tsunami.
(3) Assange has a fairly strong and multi-level system for delivering a retaliatory strike, in a lethal case. And this blow through I-net will happen regardless of any method of suppression applied and even regardless of whether he himself will change his intentions if he is kidnapped, processed and put under pressure. The question of publishing one very short decryption key and (almost) all compromising information and dossiers will immediately become available everyone, not only to several media outlets, but really everyone. But you won’t strangle or drown everyone out. The key/s are published automatically and it will be in every possible negative scenario for it. Because of this, the losses to the United States and its allies in image and, what’s worse, in purely intelligence and information terms will be incomparably greater than in the present, when he is alive, but not free and does not publish the key(s). This suits everyone for now.
(4) If they find a way to destroy the key/s and get to their owners, if they find a way to secondary encrypt the dossier while trying to decrypt it by quietly replacing the original with a modified key, which is practically not directly applicable everyone dossier and the owner of the files, only then it is possible and nothing more than to slow down the appearance of the dossier.
(5) The time will come when the preservation of Assange's life and release will become a matter of much more importance than the information he currently controls.
(5.1) He is not alone in the field of war in this battle against totalitarianism and obscurantism.
(5.2) Moreover, he organized an independent system where other colleagues continue to accumulate compromising material and other channels and editors prepare for publication.
(6) The power/organization that manages to liberate and preserve him, and those powers that will support it, will receive world status truly democratic powers. Liberation can only be achieved by a power/organization that is at the same time strong enough to protect itself from eventual sanctions and/or attacks, sufficiently independent and democratic, and, just as importantly, on which Assange either has no incriminating evidence, or this power/organization can “survive” without over-critical the removal of such incriminating evidence.
Yes, lan, there are all sorts of points... Snowden flocked to us... where he simply managed to escape. But at least thanks to an honest person, we now know everything about PRISM. The entire Pindosnian listens to the former GDR Spartswoman and her country, even to the point of accidentally farting in the toilet.
They do what Pindosna needs to withdraw money...
Russian journalist Vladimir Pozner interviewed WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. The conversation took place at the Ecuadorian embassy in London, a well-known whistleblower told why he did not seek asylum in Russia and where his organization gets money from.
About financingWikileaks
Assange told that WikiLeaks' budget is several million dollars a year. According to him, the project receives money from the public.
We are financed by our subscribers without the help of foundations, government subsidies, without the help of capital. The public supports us. We publish books, films, I perform. Different sources of income help our company operate
- Julian Assange.
Assange said that WikiLeaks managed to make a lot of money on bitcoins - the company's profit allegedly amounted to more than 50 thousand percent. When US authorities blocked the company's payments via Visa, MasterCard and PayPal, the organization lost 97% of its income. “We had to look for an alternative, and we turned to Bitcoin, the system of which was just emerging in 10-11,” Assange explained. The journalist also noted that the company employs about 100 people, most of them are men.
About goalsWikiLeaks
Vladimir Pozner asked Assange why he published documents about the Guantanamo Bay prison, diplomatic cables, records about the war in Iraq and other scandalous files. The whistleblower said he wanted to get people to take a broader look at what is being published.
Then, in 2006, the international community was sure that WikiLeaks had no place in the world. We had to shake this confidence, which we did quite successfully. Under the current status quo, people understand that WikiLeaks exists and publishes what exists. And this status quo would be disrupted if WikiLeaks were destroyed, say, by the CIA.
- Julian Assange.
Among other goals of WikiLeaks, Assange named expanding the volume of human knowledge, protecting the rights of information sources and journalists, as well as providers in their ability to disseminate knowledge. “We do not take any political position, but as an organization we oppose the killing of people in war,” Assange said.
About why he didn’t ask for asylum in Russia
Assange explained that he asked for asylum from Ecuador, not Russia, because he chose a country that is not an opponent of Western countries. “Ecuador has never been perceived as an enemy of the West, and if I had asked for asylum in Russia, it would have been used in the campaign waged by the Western press,” he said.
About Hillary Clinton and connectionsWikileaks with Russia
Posner recalled that Hillary Clinton accused WikiLeaks of collaborating with Russia in order to destroy her election campaign. The journalist asked whether Assange had deliberately opposed Clinton and worked with Russia. Assange has denied these accusations.
I know Hillary Clinton very well. Not personally, although to some extent personally too - I read a lot of her personal correspondence. Letters not written for a wide range of readers.<…>Her words cannot be trusted. She made this statement on Australian television. I'm an Australian citizen and she wants to take away my support from Australian citizens.
- Julian Assange.
Assange also called her a very dangerous and very competent person, speaking about her work as US Secretary of State. “She has long embraced far-right militant radicalism. Why did she push her ideas so hard while she was Secretary of State? To crush Libya? I think it was her political ambition. She was aware that she was a woman running for President of the United States. That the United States has a strong military industry. Therefore, she wanted to prove that she was capable of destroying the state. That she is cruel and bloodthirsty enough to destroy an entire country, and thus be accepted into the fight against the Republicans. And she achieved it.<…>It killed tens of thousands of people, leading to the rise of ISIS. She facilitated the transport of Libyan weapons to Syria, where similar problems began,” Assange said.
About regrets
The WikiLeaks founder admitted that his biggest regret is that he had to break off relationships with loved ones because of his situation.
There were situations when I had to protect close friends or relatives. To protect them, I cut off all communication because I did not want my participation in their fate to make them a tool in the hands of the United States against me. This once led to the death of someone close to me.
- Julian Assange.
What is Assange proud of?
The journalist admitted that he was proud of his company. “What I'm most proud of is that WikILeaks doesn't give up. Continues to fight, protect its employees and at the same time continues to pursue a noble goal,” he said.
In a conversation with the radio station Baltkom, he revealed the details of his interview with the founder.
“I tried repeatedly to arrange this interview, but I was unsuccessful. In this case, I was very lucky - when I was in Stockholm, on the set of a film about Scandinavia that I am currently working on, I accidentally ran into a person who is closely acquainted with Assange. And I asked him if he could help me get through to Assange. He said that he might call me later and let me know the result. Literally two days later he called back and gave the phone number of Assange’s closest assistant. That's how I got the go-ahead to do this interview. So you could say it was easy, but I was just lucky. It’s so difficult,” Posner said about how he managed to get the interview.
“I rang the doorbell of the embassy, a security guard opened it for me and checks who you are and what you are. Then, when you enter, he leads you into this waiting room and asks if you have a phone. I had two of them, he said - please give them to me. He also asked if I had a passport and said that he would give everything back when I completed my work. Then we went to the room where the interview itself would take place. It is located on the first floor, the windows are tightly closed and covered with curtains so that no one can not only look inside, but also hear anything,” the journalist continued.
“He is, of course, not a prisoner, since the Ecuadorian embassy is not forcing him to stay there. He is a refugee, and this is where he is hiding from his pursuers. Near the embassy I noticed some interesting details. He made an appointment for me at 19:30, when I arrived it was already completely dark. At the embassy building, I noticed that several cars with tinted windows were parked nearby, with no one in the front seats, but the engines were running. Also, when I entered, several people in civilian clothes were walking near the building, and when I left, they were still walking. It’s clear that this is surveillance,” and he can’t go out - he’ll be immediately captured,” Posner said.
According to the journalist, Assange is in a normal mental state.
“I talked with him for only an hour and a half, we wrote the interview live, that is, nothing was cut out, there was no editing... Yes, we talked a little before and after the interview, but I can’t draw any global conclusions on this basis I can't. It seemed to me that he was in normal condition. Of course, he is tense, but he does not give the impression of being depressed or depressed, not at all. He is aware of the gravity of his situation, he can joke about this topic, in my opinion, he is absolutely adequate,” Posner noted.
Posner also spoke about his positive attitude towards the work of WikiLeaks.
“The creator of WikiLeaks receives information from various sources, from closed people, anonymous people who have access to classified information. At the same time, this information directly affects the lives of ordinary people. WikiLeaks receives this information, and then an extremely qualified check is carried out to determine whether this data corresponds to reality. And here it must be emphasized that so far not a single person has said that this is false information. In fact, WikiLeaks allows us to be aware of what the authorities are hiding from us,” he added.
“I tried repeatedly to arrange this interview, but I was unsuccessful. In this case, I was very lucky - when I was in Stockholm, on the set of a film about Scandinavia that I am currently working on, I accidentally ran into a person who is closely acquainted with Assange. And I asked him if he could help me get through to Assange. He said that he might call me later and let me know the result. Literally two days later he called back and gave the phone number of Assange’s closest assistant. That's how I got the go-ahead to do this interview. So you could say it was easy, but I was just lucky. It’s so difficult,” Posner said about how he managed to get the interview.
“I rang the doorbell of the embassy, a security guard opened it for me and checks who you are and what you are. Then, when you enter, he leads you into this waiting room and asks if you have a phone. I had two of them, he said - please give them to me. He also asked if I had a passport and said that he would give everything back when I completed my work. Then we went to the room where the interview itself would take place. It is located on the first floor, the windows are tightly closed and covered with curtains so that no one can not only look inside, but also hear anything,” the journalist continued.
“He is, of course, not a prisoner, since the Ecuadorian embassy is not forcing him to stay there. He is a refugee, and this is where he is hiding from his pursuers. Near the embassy I noticed some interesting details. He made an appointment for me at 19:30, when I arrived it was already completely dark. At the embassy building, I noticed that several cars with tinted windows were parked nearby, with no one in the front seats, but the engines were running. Also, when I entered, several people in citizenship were walking near the building, and when I left, they were still walking. It’s clear that this is surveillance,” and he can’t go out - he’ll be immediately captured,” Posner said.
According to the journalist, Assange is in a normal mental state.
“I talked with him for only an hour and a half, we wrote the interview live, that is, nothing was cut out, there was no editing... Yes, we talked a little before and after the interview, but I can’t draw any global conclusions on this basis I can't. It seemed to me that he was in normal condition. Of course, he is tense, but he does not give the impression of being depressed or depressed, not at all. He is aware of the gravity of his situation, he can joke about this topic, in my opinion, he is absolutely adequate,” Posner noted.
Posner also spoke about his positive attitude towards the work of WikiLeaks.
“The creator of WikiLeaks receives information from various sources, from closed people, anonymous people who have access to classified information. At the same time, this information directly affects the lives of ordinary people. WikiLeaks receives this information, and then an extremely qualified check is carried out to determine whether this data corresponds to reality. And here it must be emphasized that so far not a single person has said that this is false information. In fact, WikiLeaks allows us to be aware of what the authorities are hiding from us,” he added.